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Closed Discussion: Challenge Ratings in Descriptions

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 11:43 am
by Maiyannah
Pretty simple one, so I'm making a poll attached to this, though feel free to put forth arguments in the discussion if you so wish!

By default "challenge rating" is included in the examined description of creatures - including players. Since this can be used to suss out meta information that is a players level, it is disabled many other places. The toggle is binary - there is no way to make it only apply to creatures (short of reimplementing the whole thing ourselves, of course).

Re: Open Discussion: Challenge Ratings in Descriptions

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:16 pm
by wilkins1952
Hard no on this, While it would be neat to have it be a Lore check to get that information for NPCs I think just removing it entirely is best.

Re: Open Discussion: Challenge Ratings in Descriptions

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:30 am
by Maiyannah
I'll leave the poll open for the week and go with where we're at after that.
Please make sure you vote!

Re: Open Discussion: Challenge Ratings in Descriptions

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:52 am
by Ouroboros
Not a fan of the Challenge Rating system as a concept; it's extremely nebulous and not good information to most players. It often just misleads people into assuming a given enemy is either far too strong or far too weak, when the inverse is true. Likewise, I see no possible way to accurately depict what a PC's challenge rating would be, relative to another player. A level 10 Fighter is a radically different opponent to a level 10 Wizard, and both of those are going to be completely different challenges to overcome based on your own class, prep time, equipment, etc.

Re: Open Discussion: Challenge Ratings in Descriptions

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:07 am
by Maiyannah
Yeah I tend to agree myself. Since we have consensus I think, I'll apply this the next time I restart the server. It's just a setting.

Re: Closed Discussion: Challenge Ratings in Descriptions

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:26 pm
by wilkins1952
Also to note with this is NWNs "Challenge Rating" Calculations are to put it mildly a bit bad. Which I'd argue is another reason to obsfucate them. Cause they don't really explain how hard something is to fight anyway, Especially with any custom systems added on.

Re: Closed Discussion: Challenge Ratings in Descriptions

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:32 pm
by Maiyannah
I will remove this setting when I push 0.1.9, never to trouble us with its gross innacuracy again :lol:

Re: Closed Discussion: Challenge Ratings in Descriptions

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:15 am
by Maiyannah
These should be disabled now, let me know if they resurface.